WFTO Achievements discussion/speculation.

[Peetfighter]

I know someone named Markus and he is German.

 

[Slichizard]

I know someone named Markus and he is German.

Well, we know many guys with name of Steven.

 

[Nutter]

Well, we know many guys with name of Steven.

Yes and one of them is a coder who created the AI.. wow.. what a coincidence haha

 

[Slichizard]

Yes and one of them is a coder who created the AI.. wow.. what a coincidence haha

Draven is the guy from League of Legends.

 

[Nutter]

Draven is the guy from League of Legends.

And Oberon is a reference to Game of Thrones..

 

[Slichizard]

And Oberon is a reference to Game of Thrones..

So half of the names were ''copied'' from somewhere.

Still, It's not like you will meet guys with such names everywhere.

 

[AvatarIII]

And Oberon is a reference to Game of Thrones..

He was the king of the Fairies long before he was in Game of Thrones (he is in A Midsummer Nights Dream and predates that even, coming from a French epic poem from the 13th C)

 

[Nutter]

He was the king of the Fairies long before he was in Game of Thrones (he is in A Midsummer Nights Dream and predates that even, coming from a French epic poem from the 13th C)

Yup I knew that, but in this case.. it's a Game of Thrones reference

 

[Slichizard]

Now that we speak of names, I wonder - will they match the playstyle of AI personalities? Like same Oberon building large dungeon and using lots of defensive stuff and so on or they were just randomly picked up?

 

[Nutter]

Now that we speak of names, I wonder - will they match the playstyle of AI personalities? Like same Oberon building large dungeon and using lots of defensive stuff and so on or they were just randomly picked up?

I think that's the plan.. obviously steven fright is the master underlord, destroyer of all things, and the others will be tweaked versions to make them behave different/have different game styles.

 

[Slichizard]

I think that's the plan.. obviously steven fright is the master underlord, destroyer of all things, and the others will be tweaked versions to make them behave different/have different game styles.

If so, then I expect Draven to be some aggressive sort guy who does rush and do lots of early attacks. Unfortunately other names don't tell me much of AI's potential playstyle, so I'd like to know more about this ( given the fact we will get Skirmish first in 0.7 ).

 

[Nutter]

If so, then I expect Draven to be some aggressive sort guy who does rush and do lots of early attacks. Unfortunately other names don't tell me much of AI's potential playstyle, so I'd like to know more about this ( given the fact we will get Skirmish first in 0.7 ).

Well it's pure speculation at the moment, and without spoilers.. you meet some of the AI underlords during the campaign.. so I expect they'll behave similar to how they behave during the campaign.

 

[Slichizard]

Well it's pure speculation at the moment, and without spoilers.. you meet some of the AI underlords during the campaign.. so I expect they'll behave similar to how they behave during the campaign.

Not quite so.

AI in campaign most certainly will be fully trigger-based, thus it won't do much most of the time. In Skirmish however, they will have to do many things quite quickly, thus play absolutely different from Campaign.

 

[Nutter]

Not quite so.

AI in campaign most certainly will be fully trigger-based, thus it won't do much most of the time. In Skirmish however, they will have to do many things quite quickly, thus play absolutely different from Campaign.

No but I mean in terms of their personalities.. not in the sense that they'll be fully scripted.. but certain underlords have traits which make them unique in the campaign, I expect these will show up in the AI too.

 

[Slichizard]

No but I mean in terms of their personalities.. not in the sense that they'll be fully scripted.. but certain underlords have traits which make them unique in the campaign, I expect these will show up in the AI too.

Yes, but I'm currently interested in their play style. Like which one is the best, which one is the fastest one and so on.

 

[AvatarIII]

AI in campaign most certainly will be fully trigger-based,

Mostly but not entirely.

 

[Slichizard]

Mostly but not entirely.

And yet different from Skirmish. I'm currently asking about the Skirmish AI personality, since Campaign one will depend on level objective.

 

[Nutter]

Steven Fright is "best", he will be the one who is most effective at everything. He is.. put simply, the hardest AI that V0id can come up with. The others probably wont be a "fastest" or a "slowest" but might be instead a case of Underlord X prefers beasts and wrath aspects, just as an example this could be Draven or Rhaskos (again i'm speculating.. nothing im saying here is fact)..

Whilst Underlord Y prefers turtling with Sloth aspects and building up a large army before attacking you, etc (perhaps this would be Oberon?). They'll all be "best" at their own chosen playstyle.. and Steven Fright will be even better.. at everything ever.

Also there is a bit of talk about difficulty settings for the AI too, from 1-5 Difficulty settings depending on how badly you want Steven Fright to kick your ass.

 

[Slichizard]

Steven Fright is "best", he will be the one who is most effective at everything. He is.. put simply, the hardest AI that V0id can come up with. The others probably wont be a "fastest" or a "slowest" but might be instead a case of Underlord X prefers beasts and wrath aspects, just as an example this could be Draven or Rhaskos (again i'm speculating.. nothing im saying here is fact)..

Whilst Underlord Y prefers turtling with Sloth aspects and building up a large army before attacking you, etc (perhaps this would be Oberon?). They'll all be "best" at their own chosen playstyle.. and Steven Fright will be even better.. at everything ever.

Also there is a bit of talk about difficulty settings for the AI too, from 1-5 Difficulty settings depending on how badly you want Steven Fright to kick your ass.

Difficulty settings huh? I'd like to hear more about it.

From your post AI system seem to be similar to the one in Stronghold Crusader games. AI there also had specific tactics ( castle structure ), different troops ( specific kind of unit combination ) and preferred different type of play ( from passive and slow to aggressive and fast ). Difficulty settings there however determined the starting gold for Player and AI ( either you get lots of golds and AI has few or vice versa ). I wonder if something similar will be in WFTO too.

 

[Nutter]

Difficulty settings huh? I'd like to hear more about it.

From your post AI system seem to be similar to the one in Stronghold Crusader games. AI there also had specific tactics ( castle structure ), different troops ( specific kind of unit combination ) and preferred different type of play ( from passive and slow to aggressive and fast ).

Sounds like what I expect it to be like, yeah.

In terms of difficulty settings if they happen (it will be a case of the lower settings making the AI's personality dumber.. I.e it would be more likely to make bad decisions.. or take longer to react to your breaching it's walls.. that sort of thing.. I guess)